Creating Space, Inspiring Change: The Story of Bay Area Rising
By. Alicia Zamora
In this exclusive interview with Alicia’s Studio, Bay Area Rising co-host Hannah and digital media producer Sam open up about the intention, emotion, and impact behind one of the Bay Area’s most exciting grassroots creative collectives. Bay Area Rising is more than just a show—it’s a space where artistry, vulnerability, and community come together. From live performances to short films and intimate events, it continues to grow as a movement that empowers both artists and audiences alike.
Hannah and Sam reflect on the small, powerful moments that keep them going—from seeing old friends experience the magic for the first time, to building something that feels deeply personal yet expansive. They speak on the desire to foster belonging, especially for people who often feel unseen, and their hopes to evolve Bay Area Rising into a sustainable platform for emerging creatives while keeping its soul intact.
Whether you’ve been to a Bay Area Rising event or you’re just now finding out about it, this interview pulls back the curtain on the people and passion behind the collective. Their message is clear: be bold, be kind, and just BAR it.
Diving In
Alicia: Okay we can start off with introductions!
Sam: Hi, my name is Sam Lim, also known as ASYM FILM online. As for my role with Bay Area Rising, I kind of act like a Swiss Army knife. I just fill in wherever I'm needed—whether that’s in-person production or digital media.
Hannah: Hi, everyone! I'm Hannah. I’m one of the co-hosts for Bay Area Rising, and I help connect artists and guests to the Bay Area Rising community.
Alicia: Awesome. So to start things off: What inspired the creation of Bay Area Rising, and what gap were you hoping to fill in the local scene?
Hannah: Yeah, that’s an interesting story. Bay Area Rising started back in 2021. A few of us were thinking about what we could do outside of the typical clubbing scene in San Francisco. We wanted a space where we could be creative and have fun on our own terms, but there really wasn’t anything that fit exactly what we were looking for. So, a few friends decided to host a themed music concert on someone’s rooftop. That event kind of became the informal beginning of Bay Area Rising—and it was super fun! We pulled in people from our apartment building, some friends who did music, and just put together this really beautiful DIY production. We invited friends of friends—basically whoever wanted to come.
Hannah: Because of how much fun it was and the kind of vibe it created, it started to grow. We began selling tickets and realized it was becoming more than just an event—it was turning into a real community. Now, people who’ve never even heard of us before still show up because they’re drawn to the energy and the creative space that our shows bring. At first, we were just trying to fill a gap—a place for people to be creative and connect—but I think we’ve actually created something new. It’s a space people didn’t even realize they were missing. We’ve been able to blend artistry with other talents and offer a space where artists can be themselves, showcase their work, get the resources they need, and build something bigger than they could alone.
Alicia: Can you tell us the story behind the name Bay Area Rising and what it means to your team?
Sam: Personally, I can't say for sure where the name originally came from since I wasn’t around from the very beginning of Bay Area Rising. But from what I’ve seen more recently, it reflects more than just a cool name. Not only are we trying to fill that gap by creating a space where people can be creative—there’s also a bigger need, especially in music, entertainment, and the arts. A lot of creative voices and work just don’t get seen because of so many forces in the world. So the "rising" part of our name really speaks to the fact that there are all these rising creatives who haven’t yet had a platform. And we aim to be that launchpad—or trampoline, even—for their work to get more visibility.
Alicia: Yeah, I really love what you all are doing. I actually found out about Bay Area Rising through Thomas—he performed at one of your earlier events and told me about it. I kind of do the same thing with my blog account. I try to find smaller artists and interview them to give them a platform. So, honestly, what you’re doing is so cool.
Hannah: That’s awesome.
Sam: And yeah—Thomas Ng, right?
Alicia: Yes! So what were some of the first events like, and how have things evolved since then?
Hannah: The first event was actually really small, but I think the common thread that’s continued is this feeling of closeness. Like a kind of cozy, welcoming energy. From the attendees to the performers to the people setting up the space—it’s always had this vibe of, “You’re welcome here. You’re safe to express your art however you want.” But at the same time, so much has changed. In the beginning, we were working with really limited resources. Now, we've tripled our capacity and really focused on making everything more polished and well-maintained. We’ve always put a lot of effort into the details, even on a low budget. For example, at one of our early shows, we completely covered the rooftop in yellow sticky notes to decorate the space—it totally transformed it. Another time, the theme was clouds, so we filled the area with balloons.
Hannah: And as you probably saw from that show with Thomas, the florals and visual design have evolved so much. Our creative team has really stepped it up to build a more immersive experience. Before, we were focused on capturing a feeling. Now, we try to capture all five senses. What do you see? What do you hear? It’s become much more layered and intentional. Even what do you smell? What do you taste? Everything we're embodying is meant to help you escape the outside world and really get immersed in what this show is—what is Bay Area Rising? We want people to leave saying, “I want to be part of that.” It has grown so much, and I’m really proud of where we’ve come.
Alicia: Yeah, I went to the one in November. I was just blown away because it was my first time going. I’d heard of you guys, but experiencing it in person was unreal. You guys are amazing, honestly.
Hannah: That was a great show!
Alicia: Yeah, it was so good. So, what’s the core mission that guides your work as curators and community organizers?
Sam: I had the pleasure of making a film that communicates this, but I’d say the main pillar that holds Bay Area Rising up is the idea that anything is possible if you have the right people around you. As curators, we want to form experiences that welcome people from all walks of life—especially those who might not feel welcome in other spaces, whether creative or more traditional music events. And because so much of our work comes from the community, we also want to create experiences for them that are worth their time, worth their energy, and that let them try new things and experiment with their artistry.
Alicia: What does the process look like when choosing artists and vendors? What do you guys look for?
Hannah: That’s a good question. I can’t speak on behalf of the selection team or process, but one thing we do look for is really unique talent that hasn’t hit the mainstream yet. We want to find these artists and give them a platform, while also curating the right vibe for each show. For example, in some of our shows, we might want a soft R&B and pop vibe, but then mix it up with some rap and lo-fi. So, it's a balance of choosing the sounds we want to enhance for the show while engaging the audience by mixing things up. It’s like a palette cleanser between artists to keep things fresh.But I can’t dive into the exact selection process since that’s not really my role.
Sam: Same here—I’m not really in the A&R part of things. But I do think a lot of the artists and vendors we approach aren’t necessarily super experienced in live performances. Like Sam said, we’re just giving them a chance to try things out and see how they connect with the audience.
Alicia: How do you guys balance showcasing newer artists with those who have more experience?
Hannah: Sorry, can you explain that question a bit more?
Alicia: Yeah, sure! So, at the November show, you had artists who were up-and-coming, but you also had people like RC Avenue and Rocco, who have more experience—like doing festivals, having their own concerts, and tours. How do you balance showcasing both types of talent?
Hannah: I’m happy to answer this. From my perspective, we treat all artists the same. We really focus on what talent and vision they’re bringing for their audience, regardless of their level of experience. It’s about getting to know them as people and understanding what they want to express.
Hannah: Yeah, I don’t think there’s a difference in how we treat bigger versus smaller artists when it comes to performing with us. A lot of the time, we have artists mingle with each other—we host mixers in LA and up in the Bay Area. It gives them a chance to really get a feel for what Bay Area Rising is about and decide if they want to work with us. And whether they're experienced or not, we’re all in the same boat. We’re learning too. A lot of artists are trying something completely new. Even if they're seasoned performers, they’re in a new environment where they have to engage an audience that might not have heard of them before. So, it creates this level playing field. They can experiment and bring new music, and it’ll be accepted, welcomed, and encouraged. I think that's really special about the community—no matter how big they get, they’ll always have a space here to be different and show a new side of themselves.
Sam: Part of it is also being so intentional about bringing in the right people. If the lineup is full of people who are genuinely in love with their art and just good people, it doesn’t matter what their streaming numbers or popularity are. When they’re all in the green room together, the energy is real. And from a logistical standpoint, for the show you saw—The Your World, Your Runway show—we made sure no sets overlapped. That way, every artist, no matter the size of the stage or room, had a chance to shine. Whether they were on the main stage or in one of the side rooms, they got their dedicated time and space to showcase their talent.
Alicia: Yeah, I really love that. I was just going to mention that too! It’s great because I’ve noticed that a lot of times if you don’t have the followers or the streams, you're not really picked to perform at events. But what you guys are doing is really cool—each room had its own theme, and it felt like each artist's vibe was perfectly matched.
Hannah: It was a huge collaborative effort with the creative designers for each specific room. We didn’t just pick based on the size of the room or expected crowd; we focused on what room would best showcase the artist’s sound and vibe. I’m so glad you noticed that! It’s exactly what we were going for.
Alicia: Yeah, it was incredible. I was honestly so impressed by the attention to detail.
Sam: I can attest to that too. I was the production manager for the room with moss and wire figurines, where love-sadKID, Erameld, Roe Kapara performed back-to-back. I joined the team a bit late, but when I stepped in, I could tell immediately that everything just worked—the look, the sound—it all made sense. It was clear that the process had been very intentional.
Alicia: What’s the most challenging part of organizing these events, and what makes it all worth it?
Sam: There are definitely a lot of challenges. From my perspective, it boils down to communication, people management, and anticipating potential issues before they happen. Live event production requires a lot of different levels of coordination—getting the right people in the right places at the right time, with the right equipment. And the tricky part is, none of us do this full-time, so sometimes it’s hard to foresee what could go wrong and figure out how to fix it in the future. It’s a learning process, but it’s incredibly rewarding when things go well.
Hannah: I agree with that. For me, as a co-host, one of the most challenging things was staying in the moment and remembering what makes Bay Area Rising shows so special. I started coming to shows as a guest myself—back when they were just small rooftop events—and I wanted to keep that energy alive as we grew.
Hannah: Being a co-host now, I really have to focus on the audience's experience and not get caught up in the logistics or chaos happening behind the scenes. Even though I can't always experience things the same way they do, I try to meet them where they’re at. I think that was the biggest challenge for me during the show. I met Sam a few months before the November show, and her talent is absolutely explosive. She’s been such an amazing addition to our team. Seeing how different team members handle challenges is inspiring to me, and it helps all of us learn. We’re a close-knit group—everyone’s both a colleague and a friend. Watching Sam navigate things and seeing how her brain works is a great example of how we get stronger by tackling challenges together. We help each other out and grow with every show.
Alicia: I love that you mentioned that because I remember, on the day of the show, it was raining right when you guys were unpacking everything. I saw your stories and was like, “Wow, they’re really making it happen!” But you guys still managed to pull it off.
Sam: It was intense, but we just had to get it done.
Alicia: How do you guys divide responsibilities as a team, and what does collaboration look like behind the scenes?
Hannah: A few years ago, we didn’t have set teams. People would just help where they could—audio and visual, co-hosting, managing artists. But over time, as the shows grew, we realized we needed more distinct teams and roles. So now, we have five different teams handling things like audio/visual, artist management, operations, and others. We’ve learned to define the specific needs for each event and match people’s strengths to those roles. Sometimes, people will place themselves in roles, but we also collaborate across teams. For example, as a co-host, I often collaborate with the artist managers to get to know the artists before I interview them. I also help plan team events for bonding because, as a co-host, it's part of my role to foster that connection.
Sam: You pretty much nailed it. Even though I’m still new to Bay Area Rising, I could already see that there are some of these structures in place. I’ve studied event planning, and it really boils down to the people. For me, as a production manager for my breakout room, I had to quickly understand people’s strengths and weaknesses. Sometimes, I’d need to move people around to other roles where they were more needed. Another challenge is finding the balance between creating a personable space where people can get to know each other and getting the job done.
Alicia: Have you witnessed any memorable breakthroughs or powerful moments from artists who’ve performed at your events?
Hannah: Oh, so many! That’s one of my favorite parts of these shows—almost every artist experiences a breakthrough moment. One that stands out for me was with Clavita in 2023. The overall vibe of the show that night was pretty mellow, more on the slow and reflective side. But when Clavita got on stage, everything shifted. Her set was poppin—super energetic, full of personality, and she even threw in a K-pop–influenced dance routine. It completely changed the energy of the room. Afterwards, I got to interview her and asked what gave her the confidence to go all out like that. She told me, “The moment you care about being cringe is the moment your creativity stops.” That line stuck with me. For her, it was about letting go of how others might perceive her in order to fully express herself as an artist. And honestly, it showed. That moment felt like her stepping into her own. Since then, she’s been performing on bigger stages, still doing her thing, and it’s been so dope to witness her evolution. What felt experimental back then is now just a part of who she is.
Hannah: We've had a lot of artists who experience a similar effect—after performing at Bay Area Rising, they feel safe to try new things, and then they have this creative rush. They start creating new music, collaborating, and even changing their sound. It's a unique space for breakthroughs like that, and it's a common experience for many artists.
Sam: I totally agree. On a more technical note, we've had artists sign deals after performing at our shows.
Sam: I also want to mention RYCE from the last show. I listened to some of his music in preparation, and it had a completely different energy than what he brought to the stage. It was interesting to see how he felt compelled to show a much bigger persona on stage than what you hear in his music. Even after the Your World, Your Runway show, his sound evolved for the better.
Hannah: Yeah, it’s amazing to see how artists who typically perform in more private, producer-driven settings—people who collaborate virtually—have broken out of their shells. They’re drawn to Bay Area Rising because it gives them that physical space to connect with others. I think a lot of artists feel isolated, especially when they develop their art digitally and don’t get the chance to meet others due to geographic barriers. Bay Area Rising provides inspiration for them to step outside their comfort zones, and we welcome everyone—whether they’re introverts, extroverts, or somewhere in between.
Alicia: That's so cool. I know at your event, I was really anti-social and ended up in a corner, but it still felt so welcoming. I actually met Don at that event, and he was super cool. It felt like a really positive energy.
Hannah: Don is awesome—he’s so welcoming and just makes you feel like you’ve been friends forever
Alicia: So, how do you guys nurture creative freedom while keeping everything organized and intentional?
Sam: I feel like part of our events isn’t just about what the audience experiences, but what we, the team, carry inside. We also have jam sessions for the talent, which are super important. It’s not just about curating an experience for the audience—it’s also about creating an environment where the artists feel comfortable, not just to perform, but to get to know one another, experiment with new genres, or collaborate for future projects. On the production side, for the last show, we had creative directors in each of the breakout rooms, and we gave them a lot of freedom to go all out and do what felt right. With so many volunteers, we were able to delegate some of the more basic but still creative tasks, giving them guidance while allowing them to feel like they were contributing to the bigger vision.
Hannah: Exactly, and to echo what Sam said, there is a lot of creative freedom that we offer. Even though the event seemed very cohesive, that’s the result of five or six different artists going all out with little guidance. The concept was "Your World, Your Runway," and we just let them take it from there. Some of our team members are really good at challenging the vision and pushing it further. For example, if someone says, “Let’s make it bigger,” we’re all for it. And that’s part of the beauty of it—we prioritize trusting the artist’s vision. We're not necessarily focused on making everything fit perfectly or matching themes across all artists. We give them the freedom to be themselves and then make it all work in the show.
Hannah: It’s a little different from a traditional nine-to-five job where you have specific objectives to meet. This is more about creating a space for artists to work and empowering them to execute their ideas. We make sure they have the resources to bring their vision to life.
Sam: I've been told that our approach is meant to enable ideas, not just execute a singular vision. We give the team creative freedom within certain guidelines so they can bring their own vision to life.
Hannah: If you've seen the recent short film that Sam produced for us, that’s a great example of giving creative freedom. She took footage from a lot of our different photographers and videographers, as well as her own footage, and pieced it together into this beautiful short film. It’s a perfect example of letting people fully embrace their work and have the freedom to create a cohesive narrative, and it turned out incredibly professional and beautiful.
Alicia: I love that! I also saw you guys have something coming out where artists performed in the back of a van. I saw the little snippet you posted before, and I thought, “That’s so awesome!” It's something I would have never thought of, and it’s so unique. People can be afraid to try things like that, so I love how you guys are breaking that barrier of what live shows can look like.
Hannah: Yeah, it’s going to be great. I’m excited for it to come out!
Alicia: Why do you guys think storytelling and vulnerability are such important parts of the events you host?
Sam: For me, both storytelling and vulnerability are prerequisites for creating meaningful art. To truly enable ideas to become reality, we have to foster a space where people feel safe to share their stories and be vulnerable. That’s why we’re so intentional about creating an environment that’s friendly, comfortable, and inspiring—not just for the audience, but for the creatives as well.
Hannah: Exactly. Our key mission is to inspire other artists, and a big part of that is allowing them to explore how they want to tell their story. Sometimes that doesn’t happen through words—it happens through their artistry. By reassuring people that no idea is a bad idea and that they’re trusted, we help them feel comfortable sharing their stories however they choose. Vulnerability and storytelling are key components of what we do.
Alicia: How do you guys build long-term relationships with artists, vendors, and the businesses you collaborate with?
Hannah: A lot of it comes down to the pure intentions of our group. We're not a money-grabbing music festival or a label trying to profit off artists. All proceeds from ticket sales go directly to the artists, and that really speaks to our mission of uplifting the community. A lot of people stick with us because they’ve found a rare, safe space in the industry. We don't force collaborations that don’t work; people come, experience what we offer, and choose to stay because they resonate with the vibe. Yeah, it’s hard to put into words why people stay, but it’s the same reason we’ve stayed—we dedicate a lot of our free time to making this work. A lot of our vendors, artists, and team members came to a show and said, “I want to help make this vision come to life too,” and now they’re a part of the team. There’s this attitude of “How do I get involved?” instead of an obligation.
Sam: The partnerships we build are win-win situations. We get great talent and awesome vendors, and the artists, vendors, and businesses get paid fairly—often better than what more corporate festivals would offer—and they get a larger platform to showcase what they do best.
Alicia: I love that you guys also include vendors in your shows. It gives them an opportunity to put themselves out there. I didn’t know any of them before I attended a Bay Area Rising event, but I’ve already interviewed two of them. It’s such a cool experience.
Hannah: That’s awesome! We didn’t always have vendors, but after every show, we ask ourselves, “What other art aren’t we bringing to the event? What more can we showcase?” We realized there’s a whole world of handcrafted goods, print work, apparel, and other art forms that deserve a place in the space. We wanted to give them a platform too, not as performances but more like exhibits. In the last show, we were proud of how every artist was showcased, from room design to performances to the vendor area. It felt like a very special night.
Hannah: Yeah, I think one of the ways that Bay Area Rising started was the artists were very close to the people who watched the show because those were the, you know, we were bringing together talented friends like, "Hey, do you want to perform?" So, all their friends came out, right? And so, that was the set point for what it is now. And as it's growing, we're not asking necessarily, "How do we make it more personal? How do we get the artist to connect with the audience?" It's like, "How do we preserve that from our very first shows and make sure that's still there?"
Hannah: So at the show with Thomas, for example, I think my co-host Jon and I at the time came up with an interactive exercise for every artist to do with the audience. We literally ruminated on this for weeks—deep-stocked every single artist, and we’re like, "What is their thing?" We got their personalities, pages of notes on who we think they are before meeting them, and then we came up with ideas. And when we met all of them in person, we went through these ideas with them. Sometimes, with artists, you can't have your vision at all for what you want them to do, but you have to pitch it in a way that’s like, "Would this be fun for you to do with the audience?"
Hannah: So, on the day before the show, we switched up a bunch of activities and came up with what we felt was the perfect curation for each artist. For example, Thomas did an impromptu activity where someone would shout out a word, and he would do a song about it. It sounded spontaneous, but it was actually very planned and based on his artistry branding. He's like the boy next door who you see performing in his room, and that’s where he started. So, we brought that to the audience.
Alicia: Can you describe a moment that reminded you why this work matters?
Sam: This is kind of a cop-out answer, but just being there and seeing people having fun and the artists enjoying themselves as well. Especially from the production side of things, it’s easy to get lost in the swamp of things going wrong, the schedule, what XYZ person needs. But being able to just stop for even 15 seconds and see other people having fun is a reminder that you actually have done something right, despite everything else.
Hannah: Oh, I have two moments. One of them was when a girl came up to me at a show—actually, not the one with Thomas, but the one right before it, at Sports Basement in Presidio. The theme was camping, under the stars, clouds, and pillows, kind of an indoor-outdoor vibe. And one girl came up to me, and she flew from Canada to be at that show. She had watched all our Twitch streams when we were super small with like 20 viewers. She came, won the raffle, got every single person’s merch, and she came up to every co-host and artist to meet us all. She was one of the first to buy VIP tickets, and she said, "I’ll fly to the next one too." I didn’t see her at the last show, but I’m sure she was there. But it was like a beautiful moment of, like, wow, you felt it from the screen. She just flew in for that show, and then she flew back that night. And so I think that was a huge moment for me of like, this is really different, and I'm so glad we can bring this to people. It’s something that attracts people. And then I think the other moment at the last show was... it was the first time I actually invited a bunch of my friends, because I think it was like, it kind of felt like my own thing. Like, Bay Area Rising is this circle of friends, and like, it feels like family. I just don’t think to invite a lot of my outside circle to come to a show.
Hannah: I’m like, you’ll hear about it when you hear about it. If you want to come, you can, but I’m not going to advertise it as like, “Oh, you know, we need people to come,” or anything because, like, we sell out pretty quickly. And I just wanted them to find out themselves, like, organically. But this was a show where I was like, “Ah, just come, it’ll be fun!” And when they all came, I was really touched that they were so stoked about it, and they were like, “We didn’t know you were doing this. We’re coming to the next one!” And like, they brought all their friends too. So I think that was a moment for me where it was like, validating the work that we’re doing, and that was really special too.
Sam: I also had friends who traveled pretty far. Some of them do know that I do this sort of stuff because, like, two of them actually gave me my first opportunity in live entertainment with a show with a different artist. But another one, I, like, basically never talked to him about the fact that I do live production stuff. And he managed to show up and was like, “What the hell have you been hiding from me?” So I was just like, “Ah, okay. So what I’m doing is actually good. Cool. That’s so cool.”
Alicia: How do you guys hope people feel when they walk away from a Bay Area Rising event?
Hannah: The only way I could put it is that the show brought them out of their shell. I really want people to feel like no matter who they are, they belong there. It personally resonates with me, and it's a huge reason why I continue to want to be a co-host, because I was extremely shy as a kid. I didn’t talk to even my grandparents until I was, like, 12—very old to not have done that. A lot of what went through my mind was like, “If I speak, will I be judged?” And I would hate for someone to feel that way their entire life. And if this is the place that brings them out of that and is the first experience they have with people that actually see them, not only see them but like, love them for who they are, like, please come. I want every artist to like, kind of emulate that energy to their audience so that that feeling is something they can take home with them when they leave.
Sam: 100% true. We must be long-lost twins or something. I mean, we’re literally not related despite the last name. Not just hoping that people feel welcome somewhere, but also just inspired to maybe make something to better themselves, better someone else, better their community. Because at the end of the day, Bay Area Rising is a creative collective. So we do want to make sure that we’re fostering a space where not only our in-house creatives feel inspired, but also our audience leaves inspired.
Alicia: What would you love to see this project evolve into in the next five years?
Sam: Oh boy. Having seen how the big dogs in the industry operate, I’ve kind of been able to see things from a more outsider perspective as well, because I’m newer. But right now, we’re very much learning as we go. And the growing pains are so real, not just in the live space but also in our live session series. That’s currently... well, we have a pilot episode out, but we’re working on more episodes. So hopefully… The way I want to see things is just to have a more robust sort of workflow and systems that make things like communication and collaboration more seamless. And also just structures and networks of people that facilitate bigger ideas to become possible. Yeah, that’s just from the more internal perspective. But from the external perspective, hopefully, we get to produce a bigger music festival—like, bigger scale than the last one—but still with that sort of intimate, togetherness, living-room-esque feel, if you will. And also hopefully a more constant stream of content with a more robust, like I said, content-making studio.
Hannah: I echo that. I think I want more people to know about Bay Area Rising while still preserving that intimacy—it’s like a constant challenge that we have to conquer and one-up every show as it grows. How do you maintain that and keep it special without limiting the number of guests to a show? Right, so I do see it expanding and being extremely special, even though it’s in its early phase. I actually see it becoming something that everyone looks forward to going to every year and hears about one way or another. I would love to see the word "Bay Area Rising" become a verb, like, "Oh, just like bar it!" You know, what it means is like... just go for it. Be inspired. Just do it. Be yourself. Like everything it embodies, I think I want it to be embedded in our culture and something people remember.
Alicia: Ending the interview off, what legacy do you hope Bay Area Rising will leave in the community, in the art scene, or in the lives of those who have participated in it?
Sam: I guess for a more lofty one, just, I hope we are able to contribute to a more just, less centralized, more artist-friendly future for music, arts, and entertainment, where all ideas are valid and can take flight, and that lesser and rising voices have the chance to be heard. Because that's not the state of the industry right now, and it's incredibly frustrating. But the fact that we are hopefully contributing to a positive change in that direction is kind of what I hope Bay Area Rising is able to do.
Hannah: Yeah, I think I agree with that. And I think I would want our legacy for anyone who is part of it or attended to just like, reflect back on it and think, “That was fun. That was worthwhile. That meant something to me.”